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ready for the fiscal cliff, possible layoffs, other issues, that shows we are getting closer and closer to this really becoming a reality, harris. >> ed henry, outside the white house. ed, thank you very much. for the first time, we are hearing something very tough to listen to. it is the desperate 911 call from javon belcher's own mother. the kansas city chief's nfl player who shot his girlfriend. surveillance video showed a mother allegedly sneaking her little daughter out of the hospital. doctors had warned the young leukemia patient had something in her heart that would kill her within days if they didn't deal with it. now word of a major development. what her father reportedly says about where that child is right now. stay close. same item at walmart f less? gee okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourself if you could save on brands you want. walmart. can i still ship a gift in time r christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announ
ready for the fiscal cliff, possible layoffs, other issues, that shows we are getting closer and closer to this really becoming a reality, harris. >> ed henry, outside the white house. ed, thank you very much. for the first time, we are hearing something very tough to listen to. it is the desperate 911 call from javon belcher's own mother. the kansas city chief's nfl player who shot his girlfriend. surveillance video showed a mother allegedly sneaking her little daughter out of the...
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in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the president gets a deal on rates, republicans are going to be less inclined to go along with some of the other things, like extended unemployment insurance and some sort of extension perhaps in different form of the payroll tax cut. but also to avoid the sequestration, the congress has got to find some way to have cuts in the interim. if they kick the can down the road they have to have month by month cuts. the farm bill, talking $10 billion a month to in effect buy off the sequestration while they negotiate, the farm bill if you take the senate bill, $23 billion in subsidies cut overall, $4 billion as mentioned fro
in firms of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the...
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maybe they need to show a willingness to go over the so-called fiscal cliff. now, if the president really wants to take the country there, maybe they need to let him go there. here's the bottom line. what are we hearing from the white house? we're hearing the president will not negotiate unless taxes are raised on job creators, and we're hearing that the president now wants to seize control of the debt ceiling from congress. well, that means rather than needing the approval of the house was the senate to raise the nation's spending limit, president barack obama wants to do this all by his lonesome, a blank check. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation which, by the way, we've never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. > >> sean: in this country historically it's been up to you, the individual and the government, to create a better life for the next generation. that means your kids, that me
maybe they need to show a willingness to go over the so-called fiscal cliff. now, if the president really wants to take the country there, maybe they need to let him go there. here's the bottom line. what are we hearing from the white house? we're hearing the president will not negotiate unless taxes are raised on job creators, and we're hearing that the president now wants to seize control of the debt ceiling from congress. well, that means rather than needing the approval of the house was the...
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. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy -- remember, it's only 2%. >> so the white house is eliminating the republicans' house cards. house speaker john boehner was left pretending that the democrats had not offered them a deal. >> now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> house republican leader eric cantor also seemed to forget that the white house presented a specific plan in these negotiations. >> where are the specifics? where are the discussions? nothing is going on. meanwhile, the people of this country are the ones that suffer. so we ask the president, sit down with us, be serious about the specifics of spending so we can stop the wasteful spending in washington and finally address the problem. >> john boehner appears to have the same form of anesthesia mitt romney was suffering from on the campaign trail. he tells supporters, if our offer
. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy -- remember, it's only 2%. >> so the white house is eliminating the republicans' house cards. house speaker john boehner was left pretending that the democrats had not offered them a deal. >> now we need a response from the white house. we can't...
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up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's iefonomist, and deuche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewas for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark rd! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settleor less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're onef them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&00 posting gains in december,
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up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less than optimistic? joining me is john, and carl, senior economist for deutsche bank. gentlemen, thank you for being here. start with the treasury secretary. the man in charge of our treasury is out telling everyone that the administration he works for is a part of is perfectly prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it
up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less...
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>> steve: north lawn of the white house, not a fiscal cliff, just a scary slope. >> brian: yes. >> gretchen: let's bring in michelle malkin. she's out in colorado where there is a lot of slippery slopes. usually people are just skiing down those. >> steve: we're falling down this one. >> gretchen: how do you react to what wendell goler said, the phone call between the president and boehner and the president laying down the gauntlet saying, unless you talk debt ceiling and raising taxes, i'm not going to actually come to the table anymore. how come he's not talking about what many americans deem to be the real problem, which is enormous spending? >> yeah. well, that's never been on the table for this president. so that certainly isn't any surprise. and the idea of this power grab, of course, is in keeping with this imperial presidency. it's not just a power grab, it's two-fisted power grab choke hold, give may wrestling move, brian, for what this is. and i'm glad -- >> brian: cross face. >> yeah. whatever. pile driver, i don't know. just something really obnoxious and of course, over the top
>> steve: north lawn of the white house, not a fiscal cliff, just a scary slope. >> brian: yes. >> gretchen: let's bring in michelle malkin. she's out in colorado where there is a lot of slippery slopes. usually people are just skiing down those. >> steve: we're falling down this one. >> gretchen: how do you react to what wendell goler said, the phone call between the president and boehner and the president laying down the gauntlet saying, unless you talk debt...
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gerri: is the writing on gerri: we are dangling over the fiscal cliff. but washington is at a standstill. although the president is refusing to sit downwn with republicans, he did ta to speaker john boehner this afternoon, and the white house is talking to federal agencies, warning them to get ready to go over the cliff. with more on this, congressman tommcclintock of califnia. a member of the budget coittee. if you for joining us today. you know, we heard about this telephone call between speaker boehner and the president. you think anything will come of that? >> the president has been very clear. he is hell-bent to raise taxes massively on those very wealthy folks made making over $250,000. bearer 80% of small businesses, in and exactly the time when we are depending on them to create two thirds of the new jobs in our country desperately needs. gerri: the republicans are in the way of a settlement. i want to hear what he said today. here is the president. >> we can probably solve this in a week. it is not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakth
gerri: is the writing on gerri: we are dangling over the fiscal cliff. but washington is at a standstill. although the president is refusing to sit downwn with republicans, he did ta to speaker john boehner this afternoon, and the white house is talking to federal agencies, warning them to get ready to go over the cliff. with more on this, congressman tommcclintock of califnia. a member of the budget coittee. if you for joining us today. you know, we heard about this telephone call between...
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fiscal cliff scenario to play out, wolf. but as you point out when we look back over the last three years, we've had these kinds of negotiations, it at times appears very optimistic that things will get done, then both sides very far apart. but in the final hours they get a deal done. that's the hope that despite the rhetoric what you're hearing now that this deal will happen before the end of the year. >> all right. we can only hope that there will be a compromise, this fiscal cliff will be avoided. dan lothian, thank you. not everyone seems to think it would be such a bad idea to actually go over the fiscal cliff. just one day after the treasury secretary said the white house is absolutely prepared to do just that under certain circumstances a leading economist is echoing those sentiments. >> i would not come up with a deal unless it's a really good deal before the end of the year. i would take it into next year if that means you're going to get a better deal. >> let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana b
fiscal cliff scenario to play out, wolf. but as you point out when we look back over the last three years, we've had these kinds of negotiations, it at times appears very optimistic that things will get done, then both sides very far apart. but in the final hours they get a deal done. that's the hope that despite the rhetoric what you're hearing now that this deal will happen before the end of the year. >> all right. we can only hope that there will be a compromise, this fiscal cliff will...
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as this fiscal cliff negotiations continues, they think boehner is trying to warn conservatives about going against any kind of deal he cuts with the white house. so as a warning, boehner is saying i'm going to boot you off your committee if you go against something i do. a lot of conservatives don't like it when he plays hardball. they're going to continue to fight back just like senator demint is doing right now. >> but he's also going to lose some votes on the moderate side. a couple dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter that says let's look at all kinds of tax rates, not just the deduction, but tax rates in relation to other spending. so you've got republicans jumping ship on both sides. >> that's exactly right. the speaker is going to have to make a critical choice, because the lines are being drawn in the sand right now here on capitol hill. you have the conservatives who are being booted off the committee. they're very angry with the speaker. they're not going to move at all on tax rates. but you've got a lot of moderates in the republican conference from th
as this fiscal cliff negotiations continues, they think boehner is trying to warn conservatives about going against any kind of deal he cuts with the white house. so as a warning, boehner is saying i'm going to boot you off your committee if you go against something i do. a lot of conservatives don't like it when he plays hardball. they're going to continue to fight back just like senator demint is doing right now. >> but he's also going to lose some votes on the moderate side. a couple...
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the white house is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff this january. that's the word from treasury secretary timothy geithner who appeared yesterday in an interview with cnbc. taxes are still the major impact and geithner says there is no path to an agreement that does not involve a tax hike on the wealthiest 2%. even some members of the g.o.p. are encouraging lawmakers to support the tax hikes in exchange for a broader deal on health and retirement programs. mainly republicans want to see an increase in the medicare eligibility age as well as a smaller amount of inflation applied to social security. the longer speaker boehner waits on a compromise, less bargaining power he will have. many say now is the time to give in on taxes. it is a big day in washington state for same-sex couples who will be able to pick up their wedding certificates today. voters in washington, maine and maryland approved same-sex marriage on the ballot in november. and yesterday, governor chris gregoire signed that into law calling this the last step for marriage equality in th
the white house is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff this january. that's the word from treasury secretary timothy geithner who appeared yesterday in an interview with cnbc. taxes are still the major impact and geithner says there is no path to an agreement that does not involve a tax hike on the wealthiest 2%. even some members of the g.o.p. are encouraging lawmakers to support the tax hikes in exchange for a broader deal on health and retirement programs. mainly republicans want to...
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is ready to go over the fiscal cliff. where do negotiations go from there? keep it right here on "morning joe." >>> good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. time to wake up, everybody. welcome back to "morning joe." take a live look at new york city. back with us onset we have harold ford. >> he is a professor. >> yes, he is. >> hard to believe. >> and a former member of congress. >> yes. >> steve rattner. >> he is a financier. >> yes he is. >> also hard to believe. >> and mark halperin in washington. >> he is a secret agent. won't tell us who he is meeting with. >> so cagey. >> boy, there are some stories here. unbelievable. you're talking about libya and i tell you what. you've got assad about to cross that red line and he's going to see russia leaving quick. i think he'll see even troops going in there if he starts using chemical weapons against his own people. morsi in trouble, egypt. the biggest revolt since mubarak was pushed out of power. the "new york times" also has another fascinati
is ready to go over the fiscal cliff. where do negotiations go from there? keep it right here on "morning joe." >>> good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast 5:00 a.m. on the west coast. time to wake up, everybody. welcome back to "morning joe." take a live look at new york city. back with us onset we have harold ford. >> he is a professor. >> yes, he is. >> hard to believe. >> and a former member of congress. >> yes. >> steve...
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in its opening bid in terms of the fiscal cliff, their opening bid there. they proposed extending the whole batch them. they have, just like everyone else said, when we do tax reform we really need to get rid of some of these. host: sam goldfarb is a tax writer with k.q. roll call and we've been -- c.q. roll call and we've been talking with him about the tax extender issues and their role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. but now we want to open up the phones. and if you have questions for mr. goldfarb about the so-called fiscal cliff negotiations and tax issues, the numbers are up on the screen. 202-5853. and of course you can also contact us via social media. we'll pull put up those addresses as well. and you can send an email to journal@c-span.org. now, we have this tweet for you, mr. goldfarb. guest: i think dozens of them are for businesses and i don't knowify want to describe them as -- know if i want to describe them as corporate welfare, but as was mentioned, the research and development tax credit, the tax credits to motorsports complexes, otherwis
in its opening bid in terms of the fiscal cliff, their opening bid there. they proposed extending the whole batch them. they have, just like everyone else said, when we do tax reform we really need to get rid of some of these. host: sam goldfarb is a tax writer with k.q. roll call and we've been -- c.q. roll call and we've been talking with him about the tax extender issues and their role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. but now we want to open up the phones. and if you have questions for mr....